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	<title>Comments on: Flying Spaghetti Monster should be taught in schools!</title>
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		<title>by: Mogo</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-406</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:22:54 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.&quot; - Benjamin Franklin</description>
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		<title>by: Carlito</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-404</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:50:48 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>So if the FSM is sooooooo great, can he kick Trogor's ass?

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So if the FSM is sooooooo great, can he kick Trogor&#8217;s ass?</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html</a>
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		<title>by: sudiegirl</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-401</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:37:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Does the Flying Spaghetti Monster come with Marinara or Alfredo sauce?</description>
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		<title>by: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-397</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:58:57 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The problem is that they're proposing the teaching of ID in &lt;i&gt;science&lt;/i&gt; classrooms. Science, being the process of repeatable, observable, natural phenomena. (For those of you who challenge that evolution can't be repeated, look at &lt;a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/avida' rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evida&lt;/a&gt;)
Intelligent design isn't observed, it's all written down already. Science finds evidence, and tries to create an explanation. The ID lobbiests have an explanation, and are trying to find evidence to support it. That kind of reasoning makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The problem is that they&#8217;re proposing the teaching of ID in <i>science</i> classrooms. Science, being the process of repeatable, observable, natural phenomena. (For those of you who challenge that evolution can&#8217;t be repeated, look at <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/avida' rel="nofollow">Evida</a>)<br />
Intelligent design isn&#8217;t observed, it&#8217;s all written down already. Science finds evidence, and tries to create an explanation. The ID lobbiests have an explanation, and are trying to find evidence to support it. That kind of reasoning makes no sense.
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		<title>by: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-395</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:21:04 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant!  

From a scientific standpoint, intelligent design is a fringe Christian philosophy and religious hypothesis - nothing more.  Period.  

If it weren't for the media pandering to Oh-So-Right Wing Christian Jihadists, the intelligent design lobby would be relagated to the likes of bad astrology seminars at the Holiday Inn. Teach Science in Science class, religion in religion class (or Temple, or Sunday school, or where ever).  

Peace - 

Jonathan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant!  </p>
	<p>From a scientific standpoint, intelligent design is a fringe Christian philosophy and religious hypothesis - nothing more.  Period.  </p>
	<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the media pandering to Oh-So-Right Wing Christian Jihadists, the intelligent design lobby would be relagated to the likes of bad astrology seminars at the Holiday Inn. Teach Science in Science class, religion in religion class (or Temple, or Sunday school, or where ever).  </p>
	<p>Peace - </p>
	<p>Jonathan
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		<title>by: gollyjeepers</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-370</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:59:31 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>
If someone were to renounce their faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, would that be considered an act of apastasy?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If someone were to renounce their faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, would that be considered an act of apastasy?  <img src='http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: drunkenlagomorph</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-290</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:50:16 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;MYNYM, these are my comments, not your blog!

So many big, fancy, impressive words!  We get it!  You are smarter than the rest of us, and we have no hope to battle you and your Mighty Thesaurus!

Two posts and I still have no fucking idea what your point is.  I don't know whether you're agreeing to my point, or criticizing it.  

But I would like to point out that you can use fancy words all you want, but if your writing is so unclear that the reader has to struggle (and even guess) at your message, then your writing skills probably aren't as superior as you'd like to think they are.

If you agreed with my point, thanks.  If not, I don't care.  I just want you blogging on your OWN blog, not in my comments. A reasonable request.

Oh, and only I am allowed to use blockquotes in my comments. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>MYNYM, these are my comments, not your blog!</p>
	<p>So many big, fancy, impressive words!  We get it!  You are smarter than the rest of us, and we have no hope to battle you and your Mighty Thesaurus!</p>
	<p>Two posts and I still have no fucking idea what your point is.  I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;re agreeing to my point, or criticizing it.  </p>
	<p>But I would like to point out that you can use fancy words all you want, but if your writing is so unclear that the reader has to struggle (and even guess) at your message, then your writing skills probably aren&#8217;t as superior as you&#8217;d like to think they are.</p>
	<p>If you agreed with my point, thanks.  If not, I don&#8217;t care.  I just want you blogging on your OWN blog, not in my comments. A reasonable request.</p>
	<p>Oh, and only I am allowed to use blockquotes in my comments. <img src='http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: mynym</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-289</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:28:42 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>E.g., philosophy and science:
Nicolaus Copernicus, Heliocentric Theory of the Solar System:

“How exceedingly vast is the godlike work of the Best and Greatest Artist!”

“The Universe has been wrought for us by a supremely good and orderly Creator.”

Johannes Kepler, Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion:

“Praise and glorify with me the wisdom and greatness of the Creator, which I have revealed in a deeper explication of the form of the universe, in an investigation of the causes, and in my detection of the deceptiveness of sight.”

“God who is the most admirable in his works.. .deign to grant us the grace to bring to light and illuminate the profundity of his wisdom in the visible (and accordingly intelligible) creation of this world.”

Galileo Galilei, Laws of Dynamics, astronomicalconfirmation of the heliocentric system:

“The holy Bible and the phenomena of nature proceed alike from the divine Word.”
&lt;a href=&quot;http://mynym.blogspot.com/2005/06/archive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(The Wonder of the World: A Journey from
Modern Science to the Mind of God
by Roy Abraham Varghese :103)&lt;/a&gt;

Etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>E.g., philosophy and science:<br />
Nicolaus Copernicus, Heliocentric Theory of the Solar System:</p>
	<p>“How exceedingly vast is the godlike work of the Best and Greatest Artist!”</p>
	<p>“The Universe has been wrought for us by a supremely good and orderly Creator.”</p>
	<p>Johannes Kepler, Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion:</p>
	<p>“Praise and glorify with me the wisdom and greatness of the Creator, which I have revealed in a deeper explication of the form of the universe, in an investigation of the causes, and in my detection of the deceptiveness of sight.”</p>
	<p>“God who is the most admirable in his works.. .deign to grant us the grace to bring to light and illuminate the profundity of his wisdom in the visible (and accordingly intelligible) creation of this world.”</p>
	<p>Galileo Galilei, Laws of Dynamics, astronomicalconfirmation of the heliocentric system:</p>
	<p>“The holy Bible and the phenomena of nature proceed alike from the divine Word.”<br />
<a href="http://mynym.blogspot.com/2005/06/archive.html" rel="nofollow">(The Wonder of the World: A Journey from<br />
Modern Science to the Mind of God<br />
by Roy Abraham Varghese :103)</a></p>
	<p>Etc.
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		<title>by: mynym</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-288</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:26:31 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Progressives are coming across as assholes on this one, which suits me fine.  To compare venerable viewpoints mentioned in both the Declaration and the Constitution and held to by the Founders based on millenia of philosophy and science to &quot;Whatever I feel like making up right now.&quot; reveals a level of ignorance and scientism that is not worth dealing with.  A form of scientism seems typical to the self-defined &quot;reality based community&quot; and can be traced back into the sort of arguments made by the progressives of the eugenics movement at earlier times.

E.g.
[The] bill [was] to cover only “patients” at any state custodial institution who “would be likely, if released without sterilization, to procreate a child, or children, who would have a tendency to serious physical, mental, or nervous disease or deficiency.” Patients would be sterilized upon the recommendation of their institution’s super intendent, subject to the approval of a three-member State Board of Eugenics. [...]

The amended bill was overshadowed during the session by other progressive reforms.....
Nevertheless, the General Assembly did not overlook the bill. Backed by the chairman of the state medical board and the physician’s lobby, the measure generated little debate as it passed the House of Representatives by an overwhelming vote of 117 to 29.

One of the few negative floor comments came from an Atlanta law maker who protested against “trying legislation on something that ought to be left to God to take care of.” In explaining the bill’s easy passage after years of inaction, the progressive Augusta Chronicle noted, “The very intelligent campaign for a sterilization law in Georgia which was conducted by a number of prominent young Augusta women did much toward educating the members of the Legislature and the people of Georgia generally as to the great necessity for such a law in this state.”

The Chronicle went on to urge prompt Senate action “in voting for a sterilization law, which would place Georgia among those progressive states in the Union which are doing their part to stamp out insanity, imbecility, and crime.”&lt;a&gt;(&quot;In The Finest, Most Womanly Way:&quot; Women
in The Southern Eugenics Movement
By Edward J. Larson
The American Journal of Legal History,
Vol. 39, No. 2. (Apr., 1995), pp. 139)&lt;/a&gt;

Cloaking every idiotic idea that they have in the term &quot;science&quot; and condemning those who disagree as &quot;religious&quot; is not new to the so-called reality based community of progressives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Progressives are coming across as assholes on this one, which suits me fine.  To compare venerable viewpoints mentioned in both the Declaration and the Constitution and held to by the Founders based on millenia of philosophy and science to &#8220;Whatever I feel like making up right now.&#8221; reveals a level of ignorance and scientism that is not worth dealing with.  A form of scientism seems typical to the self-defined &#8220;reality based community&#8221; and can be traced back into the sort of arguments made by the progressives of the eugenics movement at earlier times.</p>
	<p>E.g.<br />
[The] bill [was] to cover only “patients” at any state custodial institution who “would be likely, if released without sterilization, to procreate a child, or children, who would have a tendency to serious physical, mental, or nervous disease or deficiency.” Patients would be sterilized upon the recommendation of their institution’s super intendent, subject to the approval of a three-member State Board of Eugenics. [&#8230;]</p>
	<p>The amended bill was overshadowed during the session by other progressive reforms&#8230;..<br />
Nevertheless, the General Assembly did not overlook the bill. Backed by the chairman of the state medical board and the physician’s lobby, the measure generated little debate as it passed the House of Representatives by an overwhelming vote of 117 to 29.</p>
	<p>One of the few negative floor comments came from an Atlanta law maker who protested against “trying legislation on something that ought to be left to God to take care of.” In explaining the bill’s easy passage after years of inaction, the progressive Augusta Chronicle noted, “The very intelligent campaign for a sterilization law in Georgia which was conducted by a number of prominent young Augusta women did much toward educating the members of the Legislature and the people of Georgia generally as to the great necessity for such a law in this state.”</p>
	<p>The Chronicle went on to urge prompt Senate action “in voting for a sterilization law, which would place Georgia among those progressive states in the Union which are doing their part to stamp out insanity, imbecility, and crime.”<a>(&#8221;In The Finest, Most Womanly Way:&#8221; Women<br />
in The Southern Eugenics Movement<br />
By Edward J. Larson<br />
The American Journal of Legal History,<br />
Vol. 39, No. 2. (Apr., 1995), pp. 139)</a></p>
	<p>Cloaking every idiotic idea that they have in the term &#8220;science&#8221; and condemning those who disagree as &#8220;religious&#8221; is not new to the so-called reality based community of progressives.
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		<title>by: The Panda's Thumb</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-280</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 08:07:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;The reaction to Bush's statements&lt;/strong&gt;

In response to George W. Bush's statement that he supports teaching Intelligent Design creationism in our public schools,  I wrote my own reply, and also volunteered to collect links to other people's criticisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>The reaction to Bush&#8217;s statements</strong></p>
	<p>In response to George W. Bush&#8217;s statement that he supports teaching Intelligent Design creationism in our public schools,  I wrote my own reply, and also volunteered to collect links to other people&#8217;s criticisms.
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		<title>by: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-277</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 02:13:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I know for sure that an intelligent designer guided the creation of my blog.  His name is &quot;Bob.&quot;

http://goodmorninghouston.blogspot.com/2005/08/this-blog-has-been-intelligently.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know for sure that an intelligent designer guided the creation of my blog.  His name is &#8220;Bob.&#8221;</p>
	<p><a href='http://goodmorninghouston.blogspot.com/2005/08/this-blog-has-been-intelligently.html' rel='nofollow'>http://goodmorninghouston.blogspot.com/2005/08/this-blog-has-been-intelligently.html</a>
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		<title>by: danelle</title>
		<link>http://drunkenlagomorph.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/flying-spaghetti-monster-should-be-taught-in-schools/#comment-264</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:25:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>You knew I would have to chime in here!  I am a born again Christian, but I believe that there absolutely has to be some sort of timeline &quot;issues&quot;, and that evolution absolutely exists.  Evolution is brilliant, so of course it's divine.

I believe that there is much interpretation to be had concerning the parables and &quot;moral stories&quot; in the Bible, but I do believe that the message of salvation is true, and  is the most important part of a Christians life.  I don't see any point arguing how old the earth is or whether dinosaurs existed or not, because in the big picture, it's really not that important.  

God only requires one thing to be saved after death, and being &quot;right&quot; about creationism/evolution ain't it.

I love that I can read something you wrote Mary, and get fired up about it...rant and rave about it..and know that it changes absolutely nothing between us.  *kiss kiss.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You knew I would have to chime in here!  I am a born again Christian, but I believe that there absolutely has to be some sort of timeline &#8220;issues&#8221;, and that evolution absolutely exists.  Evolution is brilliant, so of course it&#8217;s divine.</p>
	<p>I believe that there is much interpretation to be had concerning the parables and &#8220;moral stories&#8221; in the Bible, but I do believe that the message of salvation is true, and  is the most important part of a Christians life.  I don&#8217;t see any point arguing how old the earth is or whether dinosaurs existed or not, because in the big picture, it&#8217;s really not that important.  </p>
	<p>God only requires one thing to be saved after death, and being &#8220;right&#8221; about creationism/evolution ain&#8217;t it.</p>
	<p>I love that I can read something you wrote Mary, and get fired up about it&#8230;rant and rave about it..and know that it changes absolutely nothing between us.  *kiss kiss.
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		<title>by: julie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:30:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Amen, sistah!  I think that either no religion should be taught in school--or they should give equal time to the big ones--Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc.  I wholeheartedly agree with Shyster above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Amen, sistah!  I think that either no religion should be taught in school&#8211;or they should give equal time to the big ones&#8211;Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc.  I wholeheartedly agree with Shyster above&#8230;
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		<title>by: BlogBites</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:18:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;The fact that religious OPINION is being legislated into public school cirriculum should make everyone fucking terrified, even the people whose opinions are currently popular enough to be forced down our throats.&lt;/strong&gt;

The Drunken Lagomorph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>The fact that religious OPINION is being legislated into public school cirriculum should make everyone fucking terrified, even the people whose opinions are currently popular enough to be forced down our throats.</strong></p>
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		<title>by: shyster</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:51:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>One of the best things that we could do would be to teach the literal word of the bible in school. Once the students actually learn what it says in the Old Test. the impact could be a fun thing to watch. I dare say that the PTL, 700 Club and Focus on the Family crowd would not be all that happy.
Question — God to a primative people: Have a seat and let me tell you about microbes and diseases.
OR: I command you not to eat pork.
Would the same god make the same rules today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One of the best things that we could do would be to teach the literal word of the bible in school. Once the students actually learn what it says in the Old Test. the impact could be a fun thing to watch. I dare say that the PTL, 700 Club and Focus on the Family crowd would not be all that happy.<br />
Question — God to a primative people: Have a seat and let me tell you about microbes and diseases.<br />
OR: I command you not to eat pork.<br />
Would the same god make the same rules today?
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